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2005-01-05
Depp Takes Inspiration From Manson For Wonka Role
JOHNNY DEPP's muse for his role as WILLY WONKA in forthcoming movie CHARLIE AND THE CHOCOLATE FACTORY is set to shock fans of the children's book - it's shock rocker MARILYN MANSON

The OSCAR-nominated actor is keen to give his character a darker edge and has been inspired by the self-proclaimed ANTICHRIST SUPERSTAR for his performance in the TIM BURTON-directed adventure.

This is not the first time Depp has used a rock star as his inspiration - he based flamboyant pirate JACK SPARROW in PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN on wildman ROLLING STONE KEITH RICHARDS.

A source says, "He has his music and pictures in his trailer to help get in character.

"He's making Willy far more sinister than before and there's a little of Marilyn in there."

source: www.contactmusic.com

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Same with Tim Burton--I love 'em both, they're totally on my list for the 'eternal dinner party'...i.e., everyome on earth through history I'd want to have all together in one room.

And about bloody time they got more sinister with Willie Wonka--though, all told, I still do love the original one for its surreality and Dali-esque view into the workings of a creative mind. The music sucks though, and cheezifies it badly, and apparently the fey weirdness that Gene Wilder did give the role was not something he wanted to be remembered for, a la Tim Curry in "The Rocky Horror Picture Show"....damn pity, 'cause he was the one good thing in it, besides the physically-impossible knicknacks in his office...

Anyhow....in the Harry Potter series, J.K. Rowling always writes in a very Roald Dahl style--exaggerated and almost ludicrous badness--for the Dursleys--that's actually the first thing I noticed when I read the first book, as with all my sibs..."Hey, these people are like the Twits..." So, now that the Potter franchise has started to mature and darken itself, it's quite fitting that a kindred work should also be given more edgy and 'dark' a treatment...

*checks her own guest list* I think we're going to have to co-host; they're on my list, too...
It very definitely /is/ about bloody time. Another I'd like to see darkened is Alice in Wonderland (perhaps a la the American McGee game). I don't know why Wilder would shun his role as Mr. Wonka--personally, I think it's his best performance. (Tim Curry, on the other hand... Perhaps it's only childhood nostalgia, but I liked him best as Lord Darkness, with Dr. Ferter as a close second.)
The Twits!! :-D My second grade teacher read us this book, and I promptly went out and hunted down a copy of my own. I enjoy Dahl's work to this day, and I agree with the similarities. Really, I find that many of these English writers have a certain lilt to their work. I can't seem to get enough of it.
Speaking of kindred work, what did you think of the Series of Unfortunate Events movie? I hear from my own younger sib that it was not as faithful to the books as it could've been, but I really enjoyed it.

I haven't seen A Series of Unfortunate Events yet, nor read any of the books directly to see where exactly they diverge, though my older sister who is a librarian loves them and talks about them a great deal (so I am not completely ignorant of them, lol). I'll probably read the books all first and possibly in lieu of seeing the movie, just 'cause good books are rarely given justice on the screen. Even noting the overt ideological bias, the Chronicles of Narnia are another series so far best left to the printed page and the mind of the individual reader.

Lord Darkness rules, and was far more charismatic a presence than Tom Cruise as a woodsy goody-two-shoes....not to mention I always wanted Lily to take her own darkside-turning a bit further....>:) Not to kill the unicorn, but just 'cause she looked so kinky Goth-dolled up like that...

It's a good one: visually gorgeous, nicely written, well-acted (Jim's at his nuttiest, and still pulls off his role as the villain rather elegantly, I thought). I have only read the first book, so far. In spite of the differences, I enjoyed the movie very much.

Funny you should mention Narnia... They're having another go at The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe. It's due out next winter. I'm looking forward to it, if only with curiosity.

You know, I was glad Lily didn't kill the unicorn (had a fascination with them, when I was younger), but... My first thought upon her not choosing Lord Darkness was "/Is she crazy???/"
Honestly, I think that movie, her in that dress, was what made me fall in love with Goth in the first place. Mind, I didn't hear my first Bauhaus song until years later, but that movie was the start.

Another thing about the whole Manson/Wonka connection that made me happy... There was a rumor floating around a while back that Manson was originally slated to play Wonka himself, but the producers wouldn't allow it. If the rumor's true, I'm glad to see that something of him will still make it onscreen. I would've been curious to see how he would have done, but I have no doubt that the illustrious and lucious Mr. Depp will do a great job. (Don't know if he'll top Wilder's, though ;-)

Oh, I definitely think that Depp both looks better and can blend the elfin with the sinister more subtle-subversively in this...I'm definitely looking forward to it. Truth be told, I've not much experience of Marilyn Manson, and the only other 'star vehicle' of a heavy metal etc singer I've seen--"Dee Snider's Strangeland"--was rather disappointing in its limited audacity and mental challenge...'course, Snider isn't Marilyn Manson, and he wasn't Tim Burton either.....

Ah, Manson. Musically, perhaps he is not Bach, but I still enjoy his work. I have always liked the visuals he has attached to the music, in album covers and videos.
As a person, he seems very articulate and intelligent--much moreso than your average metal frontman. He has been in two movies, I hear, but I haven't tracked them down yet to see what kind of actor he is.

I thought Strangeland was okay, and I like Snider's voice. I agree, though, he's neither Manson nor Burton... Neither is he Depp ;-)

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